i had the privilege and honor of interviewing nelson mandela in capetown the next day and it was amazing to me, donna brazile is watching as we await president obama, donna, it was amazing to me that he showed, even though he had been at robin island the day before, where he had been so brutally treated for so many years, no bitterness, no anger. he said we need all south africans, we need all south africans to work together because this can be a great country. if we fight each other, the whole country will be destroyed. >> you know, he believed when he left robin island that it was time to bring people together -- >> hold on, donna. here's the president of the united states. >> at his trial in 1964, nelson mandela closed a statement saying i have fought against white domination and i have fought against black domination. i have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony and with equal opportunities. it is an ideal which i hope to live for and to achieve but if need be, it is an ideal for which i am prepared to die. nelson mandela l